Will this be Ben Cousins last year in the AFL?

Moderator Posts: 5742 Age: 21 Location: QLD

Do you think the time has come for richmond to cut its ties with Ben Cousins?

No doubt the bloke was an absolute star in his prime but since his dramas he obviously hasn't been the same player and has missed parts of the season through injury. So is he just getting in the way of a youngster to come into the squad?

Ben brings alot of leadership and even when he is down on form he is still a very good player so do you think it is crucial for the Tigers to keep him for that little bit longer?

If he still dosn't get back to his best this year do you think that may be the end of Cuz or would you persist. That is basically taking into account that he will play out the year. If he gets back to his brilliant form how much longer do you think he can go on?

Discuss!!!!!!!

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Guru Posts: 2183 Age: 36 Location: Melbourne

yeah 100% , they were saying that he may not play another game,every game he plays is just taking away from a kid that needs the experience..

Yeah he can bring leadership i guess on the field and inspire a few of them but i think he finished...

Legend Posts: 10071 Location: Adelaide

Most definitely. He isn't the player he used to be, and he is constantly finding himself becoming injured.

He'll play one more year IMO, he's completely lost what he had at West Coast in terms of skill and ability. But he should retire this year, but he'll retire next year.

Guru Posts: 4113 Age: 25

south01 wrote:

yeah 100% , they were saying that he may not play another game,every game he plays is just taking away from a kid that needs the experience..

Yeah he can bring leadership i guess on the field and inspire a few of them but i think he finished...

I hate this line of thinking, may as well stop playing when you are 30 (younger for some teams) and let some 18 year old in. Young players need to learn to earn their position.

That being said, Cousins will finish up at the end of this year, he isn't suited to a team like richmond and never really was.

Guru Posts: 7555 Age: 21 Location: A land down under

Can I just say its a bloddy joke he and the other 2 got suspended
They arnt Connors babysitter
Suspended for not stepping in earlier, Richnond is a rabble

Guru Posts: 4576 Age: 105

As Fuzzy said the kids do need to earn their spots, and not get games because they are kids. Cousins has a wealth of experience and the kids can learn alot from him. You need experience and a leader in sides, Cousins along with others provides that for us. I dont care if he's perforamances arent equivilant to he's west coast years, when we got him we knew what we were getting and he is a hell of a lot better than 90% of our list

Moderator Posts: 11350 Age: 21 Location: Seeing Sounds.

This is the exact reason why they need an in-season trade period. It's clear the Tigers won't play him for much longer, and he'll be twiddling his thumbs in the VFL for the remainder of the season. He should at least have the opportunity to go to another Club.

Guru Posts: 4665 Age: 18 Location: Bendigo

Should be gone from the AFL. Like my Post from this thread Laughing

Guru Posts: 4113 Age: 25

Sparky_Hughes wrote:

This is the exact reason why they need an in-season trade period. It's clear the Tigers won't play him for much longer, and he'll be twiddling his thumbs in the VFL for the remainder of the season. He should at least have the opportunity to go to another Club.

One player isn't reason enough to bring that in. Not to mention he and anyone could have seen Richmond were going to struggle this year playing a side full of kids, if he really wanted a shot at another club he could have tried to move on in last years trade period.

It's just shit luck for Cousins that the only team that was prepared to take that risk on him was one that over-rated their list and expected to be playing finals and pushing for a flag, but were never that close.

Moderator Posts: 5742 Age: 21 Location: QLD

Black Bird wrote:

As Fuzzy said the kids do need to earn their spots, and not get games because they are kids. Cousins has a wealth of experience and the kids can learn alot from him. You need experience and a leader in sides, Cousins along with others provides that for us. I dont care if he's perforamances arent equivilant to he's west coast years, when we got him we knew what we were getting and he is a hell of a lot better than 90% of our list

So as a Tigers fan you want him to remain in the side and play out the year? Would you want him to play on next year or is it too early to say?

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Moderator Posts: 11350 Age: 21 Location: Seeing Sounds.

Fuzzy wrote:

One player isn't reason enough to bring that in. Not to mention he and anyone could have seen Richmond were going to struggle this year playing a side full of kids, if he really wanted a shot at another club he could have tried to move on in last years trade period.

It's just shit luck for Cousins that the only team that was prepared to take that risk on him was one that over-rated their list and expected to be playing finals and pushing for a flag, but were never that close.

I'm sure there will be more examples to come later in the season.

Guru Posts: 4576 Age: 105

Beckham wrote:

Black Bird wrote:

As Fuzzy said the kids do need to earn their spots, and not get games because they are kids. Cousins has a wealth of experience and the kids can learn alot from him. You need experience and a leader in sides, Cousins along with others provides that for us. I dont care if he's perforamances arent equivilant to he's west coast years, when we got him we knew what we were getting and he is a hell of a lot better than 90% of our list

So as a Tigers fan you want him to remain in the side and play out the year? Would you want him to play on next year or is it too early to say?

Yeah i want him to play out the year. List managment and the like can only work if they've got someone to learn off. You need to have a balance of kids mixed with experience. We arent going to get much out of this year and Cousins will provide few highlights

Id like him to play next year if he's body is right, but i wouldnt be too fussed if he retired or if we even traded him. I wouldnt delist him though, he deserves to go out on he's own terms.

What ever happened to the days of the best player plays?

Legend Posts: 10654 Age: 17 Location: Brisbane QLD

TealDevils wrote:

He'll play one more year IMO, he's completely lost what he had at West Coast in terms of skill and ability. But he should retire this year, but he'll retire next year.

That is right, but you have to expect that.

I think that Ben will play on, and he should. He is still a good player, he has proven that. There is no way he was going to be as good as his younger days but he is still good and as Bird said, better than majority of the Richmond list.

And I couldn't agree more with what BB said about he deserves to go out on his own terms. He shouldn't be delisted, while he is still one of their best players.

Guru Posts: 4860 Age: 18

His constant injuries really do hurt him, and you cant help but feel sorry for him being so injury prone. I really do think Richmond need him, they are struggling and his leadership could do them well - he is still one of their best, and especially for Richmond getting rid of talent like that is a waste.

Guru Posts: 2183 Age: 36 Location: Melbourne

Fuzzy wrote:

south01 wrote:

yeah 100% , they were saying that he may not play another game,every game he plays is just taking away from a kid that needs the experience..

Yeah he can bring leadership i guess on the field and inspire a few of them but i think he finished...

I hate this line of thinking, may as well stop playing when you are 30 (younger for some teams) and let some 18 year old in. Young players need to learn to earn their position.

That being said, Cousins will finish up at the end of this year, he isn't suited to a team like richmond and never really was.

I agree that older players (30 isnt old) have a place and young guys have to earn the place, They say not i say he is taking away from the youngsters but someone has to be out their as a mentor, also agree the Tigers was never the correct team but they were the ones to give a second chance...

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Guru Posts: 1518 Age: 17

GUNNN wrote:

Yes

Plain and simple...one way of getting your point across.