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PostSubject: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:05 pm

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/name-your-australia-team-for-the-first-ashes-test-against-england-at-the-gabba/story-fn2mcu3x-1225938487404

Who would make your starting XI for the first test up at the Gabba?
Personally I would go

1. Watson
2. Katich
3. Ponting (c)
4. M.Hussey
5. Clarke
6. Ferguson/Khawaja depending on Shield form
7. Haddin
8. Hauritz
9. Johnson
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger

The Watson/Katich partnership must not be broken. North is too inconsistant for mine, don't get be wrong he's a good batsman, it's just he either gets 100 or scores about 10, and more often than not, it's around 10. Hauritz shouldn't be dropped, Warne never did to well in India so Hauritz should be forgiven.


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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:11 pm

Yeah I am happy with that line-up that you posted mate, looks pretty good.

You would assume that it would be pretty much like what you posted, although there is a chance they will put Smith and Ryan Harris in.

But like I said, I like the squad you put up.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:20 pm

1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Michael Clarke
5 - Phil Hughes
6 - Cam White
7 - Tim Paine
8 - Steve Smith
9 - Mitch Johnson
10 - Ben Hilfnehaus
11 - Doug Bollinger
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:38 pm

neil21 wrote:
1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Michael Clarke
5 - Phil Hughes
6 - Cam White
7 - Tim Paine
8 - Steve Smith
9 - Mitch Johnson
10 - Ben Hilfnehaus
11 - Doug Bollinger

Just asking mate, why do you want Hussey dropped?
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:41 pm

The Tank wrote:
neil21 wrote:
1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Michael Clarke
5 - Phil Hughes
6 - Cam White
7 - Tim Paine
8 - Steve Smith
9 - Mitch Johnson
10 - Ben Hilfnehaus
11 - Doug Bollinger

Just asking mate, why do you want Hussey dropped?

I just think its time to bring in some new blood
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:14 pm

ahk fair enough then
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:32 pm

1. Watson
2. Katich
3. Ponting
4. M.Hussey
5. Clarke
6. North/Ferguson
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Hauritz/O'Keefe
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger

I put Steve O'Keefe next to Hauritz because I reckon the Indian Series had to be Hauritz downfall but if he proves me wrong by getting alot of wickets in the 1st and 2nd Tests of the Ashes he should stay. If not, Steve O'Keefe is a handy player in the team. Can bat and can Bowl his left arm offies and quite handy with the bat as well. He was in the Australia A side which kicked arse against the Sri Lanka A team early this year. He took 7 wickets and scored 61 runs.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:33 pm

neil21 wrote:
1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Michael Clarke
5 - Phil Hughes
6 - Cam White
7 - Tim Paine
8 - Steve Smith
9 - Mitch Johnson
10 - Ben Hilfnehaus
11 - Doug Bollinger

im liking this team without hussey. he has had it imo. i expect him and haddin to retire at the end of the series.
1. & 2. Watson and katich have been great opening up the attack

3. ponting doesnt have much left in him. Had a good innings in the last indian match to post a half decent 2nd innings score for aus. but i think his time is running as captain

4. Clarke.... was meant to be next Aus capt but batting lately has been below average

5. Hughes i like. We need a bit of youth and he is going to be big in the future.

6. Cam White... kinda dont agree with him. i would like some shield player to come and take that spot. Wouldnt mind someone like Khawaja (might be a bit too early for him), or even Ferguson??? not too sure with the shield players

7. Paine is going to be australia's full time keeper soon enough

8. i like the look of smith. he is devloping with the bat and ball everyday

9. johnson even though i dont like him we kinda need a strike weapon

10. hilfnehaus is probably my favourite australian bowler atm. as long as he can stay fit

11. bollinger has been australias best bowler for the last year and needs to be there because of this
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:16 am

Don't think changes need to be made, perhaps just a small change with the batting order - move Mr Cricket back up to four and Clarke dropping down one spot. India is one of the toughest places in world Cricket to come away with a victory, let alone a series win. The first Test could have gone either way and we were in the last Test going into the final day, the bowlers just couldn't finish the job.

Panthers Ashes XI:

1. Watson
2. Katich
3. Ponting (c)
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. North/Ferguson
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Hauritz
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger

12. Siddle

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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:48 am

North won't be dropped, he had success in England last year and hit a good innings in the Second Test. I really don't like him but it's just the way it will be.

I like Panthers' side.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:26 am

Just drop Marcus North IMO. We just can't tolerate someone scoring low for 7 or 8 innings then getting a century and 'saving himself'. I would rather Usman Khawaja, Callum Ferguson or even someone like David Hussey tried at the number 6 position.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:22 pm

Panthers wrote:
Don't think changes need to be made, perhaps just a small change with the batting order - move Mr Cricket back up to four and Clarke dropping down one spot. India is one of the toughest places in world Cricket to come away with a victory, let alone a series win. The first Test could have gone either way and we were in the last Test going into the final day, the bowlers just couldn't finish the job.

Panthers Ashes XI:

1. Watson
2. Katich
3. Ponting (c)
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. North/Ferguson
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Hauritz
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger

12. Siddle

Yep that is what we need to go with imo. Pretty much the same as the one posted in the OP of the thread, just Hauritz and Johnson around in different places.

I honestly don't know if North will be dropped or not. On one page I think that maybe they will realize that he is inconsistent and that someone else could do us better, but on the other side I think like Sibs said, he played well in England last year and his last innings was good.

I don't mind North, he gets under all of our skins all the time obviously but he generally isn't BAD. I would prefer to have Ferguson in the side, but if North gets the gig, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:46 am

Intresting that im the only one to have Paine in the side
I would prefer him who is going to keep for next 8 years than Haddin who has been injured and will play for 2 years max
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:54 am

I would be happy with Paine or Haddin. You bring up a good point about Paine, he is the future, so it would be good to give him the gig. My head says though that the selectors won't think for the future and give him experience but they'll go with Haddin someone who already has experience.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:49 am

Australia

1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Phil Hughes
5 - Michael Clarke
6 - Cam White
7 - Brad Haddin
8 - Nathan Hauritz
9 - Mitch Johnson
10 - Ben Hilfnehaus
11 - Doug Bollinger

England

1 - Alistair Cook
2- Andrew Strauss
3 - Ian Bell
4 - Paul Collingwood
5 - Kevin Pieterson
6 - Eion Morgan
7 - Matt Prior
8 - Stuart Broad
9 - Tim Bresnan
10 - Graeme Swann
11 - James Anderson

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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:43 pm

For England...

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pieterson
Collingwood
Bell
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn

I don't think England have brought another opener in their squad, so Cook retains his place even though he's under a heap of pressure. Morgan misses out for Bell. Ever since England last toured South Africa he's been a different player mentally. I'm honestly not sure who gets the 3rd seamer spot. I went with Finn as he had been playing for England during the English summer.

For Australia - The only change i'd like to see happen is the dropping of Hussey. Hussey has only made 1 hundred in the past 12 months and that came in a fixed test match. TBH I get the feeling Husseys One Day form has been keeping him in the test team. However I think Australia will go in with a fairly similar XI then the Indian test series.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:02 am

Squad gets announced on Monday - looking at about 15 getting named.

I'd like to see the following 11 playing in Brissy

Watson
Katich ^
Ponting
Clarke ^
Hussey
North
Haddin
McDonald
Harris^
Bollinger^
Johnson.

^ Depending on fitness.

McDonald in for Hauritz for a couple of reasons.

1, He just scored 2 hundreds in shield cricket. With him being in the side it will take pressure off North and Hussey who have been under the pump recently.

2, Australia only pick Hauritz so he can build up pressure from one end, not for his spinning ability. Tight and economical bowling is something that McDonald is probably the best in Australia at. When you combine that with the fact that the Gabba has always been a pitch that will favor the seamers alot more then the spinners. It makes alot of sense for McDonald to play over Hauritz in Brisbane ONLY.

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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:10 pm

Australia

1. Watson
2. Katich
3. Khawaja
4. Clarke
5. Ponting
6. Ferguson
7. Paine
8. Krejza (\abuse)
9. Harris
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger/Siddle

Khawaja is australias longterm #3, Clarke #4, Fergo #5. However ponting at 6 is just too low. Khawajas game suits #3 to a T, better than ponting, and he's probably better anyway. North I like but has done his time...Hussey averaging 35 in test cricket over the last 3 years seeyalada, Paine = keeping of haddin and more of a batsman (not a better one, but he plays like a batsman, like could make the team on his batting, has the technique of a middle order, haddin doesn't) (not necessarily better) and younger. Krejza is a quality spinner need some real turn against the poms and I just think he's good, Johnson failed in grade cricket today, Harris is better, in great form, others explanatory.

Extreme and won't happen, but....

Pomz

1. Strauss
2. Cook
3. Trott
4. Pieterson
5. Morgan
6. Collingwood
7. Prior
8. Broad
9. Swann
10. Anderson
11. Finn

pretty simple haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:54 pm

Australia XI -

1. Watson
2. Katich (Hughes)
3. Ponting
4. Hussey
5. Clarke
6. Ferguson/Khawaja
7. Haddin
8. McDonald
9. Johnson
10. Harris
11. Bollinger

12. Smith

England XI -

1. Strauss
2. Cook
3. Trott
4. Pietersen
5. Collingwood
6. Bell
7. Prior
8. Broad
9. Swann
10. Anderson
11. Finn

12. Morgan
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:44 am

or hughes in for fergo @ watto to 3 - the way he plays he also could be the longterm australian #3
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:39 am

Ok I have thought about this more and this is what Ive come up with

1 - Shane Watson
2 - Simon Katich (Phil Hughes, if Katich isnt fit)
3 - Ricky Ponting
4 - Michael Clarke
5 - Mike Hussey
6 - Brad Haddin
7 - Steve Smith
8 - Mitch Johnson
9 - Ryan Harris
10 - Doug Bollinger (Peter Siddle if he isnt fit)
11 - Ben Hilfenhaus

In the squad of 15 who misses
Phil Hughes
Usman Khawaja
Cameron White
Peter Siddle
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:20 pm

you'd drop north (who even you admit by having smith @ 7that north is a better bat) for smith when atm, north is a better bowler too?
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:32 pm

North will play, can guarntee it
I just want to see something different, give Smith a go
and anyway I rate Haddin as a better bat than North, id have Haddin at 6
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:37 am

Official Squad

Simon Katich
Shane Watson
Ricky Ponting (c)
Michael Clarke (vc)
Mike Hussey
Marcus North
Brad Haddin
Nathan Hauritz
Mitchell Johnson
Ben Hilfenhaus
Doug Bollinger
Peter Siddle
Usman Khawaja
Steve Smith
Xavier Doherty
Callum Ferguson
Ryan Harris

Surprised at the Doherty selection. He has a pretty bad first-class average.
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PostSubject: Re: Your Ashes XI?   Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:40 am

NRL_Fanatic wrote:
Official Squad

Simon Katich
Shane Watson
Ricky Ponting (c)
Michael Clarke (vc)
Mike Hussey
Marcus North
Brad Haddin
Nathan Hauritz
Mitchell Johnson
Ben Hilfenhaus
Doug Bollinger
Peter Siddle
Usman Khawaja
Steve Smith
Xavier Doherty
Callum Ferguson
Ryan Harris

Surprised at the Doherty selection. He has a pretty bad first-class average.

As do all of our spinners.
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